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IT Survivors - Staying Alive In A Software Job |
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Written by Harshad Oak
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Nov 03, 2005 at 12:21 PM |
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Comment by Noname on 2005-11-12 14:57:10
i now freelance and am not at all eager to join a software company... if i do look for a job, it'll be in a different line if i can help it |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-13 10:45:26
The fumbling harmer is actually right this time - all that the desi big guys are interested in is the cheap real estate they can talk the Kar and AP govts out of.
There can be no innovation in any company that is ISO9000 or CMM certified. By definition. Think about it - the whole system is designed to kowtow to the yankee's "requirements documents" - if you innovate, you become a product guy and have to leave.
Meanwhile, the yanks curse you for "stealing" their jobs - which their CxOs handed over to the desi sweatshops to churn out code.
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Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 04:41:44
Hi, I think the arguments contained in your article are quite topical and relevant. Well, I don't work for a software company, but my spouse does. His work culture offers some amount of work-life balance, but on an average he spends good 11 hours in office on all 4 days of the 5 day week. And the oft quoted reason of client timings , 24/7 support, etc works to his disadvantage. The truth is I donot know what the limit is. Fair enough that he is paid well (again, I donot have any benchmarks- I donot know whether there is an optimum pay packet for someone who puts in so many hours of work with so much sincerity) Now, if you are wondering what ' work-life' balance I had in mind when i commented on it, this is what i mean to say- two- three 2 week holidays in a year or so! I certainly take this as a blessing. Well, thats the only time my one year old son I get to see him! I have often heard him talk ill about the marketing teams who go ahead and commit for the project to be compelted in much lesser time schedules and what amount of pressure it puts on the technical team.
Everyone knows about the kind of problems faced by employees of the IT industry and many are talking about it too! BUT WHO WILL BELL THE CAT?
Minu |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 05:47:06
Although my opinions have already been echoed by few people here ... i am curious to know how any Manager / Leader would react to this...
Anyone reading this ... ??? |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 08:13:20
A topic well addressed and good to see quite a few comments. So, we can see that there are plenty of people out there who are affected in some way by the topic of discussion. As far as i think and have witnessed in last 3 yrs in this industry, we cannot hold only one factor risponsible for the current state of our work culture.
Afterall, IT industry is nothing but us, the workforce. We should learn to say NO. In our company, if someone leaves at 6-7 PM everyone is looking at him as if he is doing something entirely odd. We at the grassroot level should be able to convince our seniors that there is something definatley wrong the way we all are working. We need to stick together and raise the issue to the top management. Nothing will happen if we only talk about it or post blogs n stuff.
We can start off by raising the issues in our own companies. Lets just try and better the work culture in our companies and we will see how things get better suddenly all around. I think Mr. Harshad as raised a valid point and lets not let go this 'opportunity' begging. Start thinnking how we can do it, how can "I" make the difference. Lets work on it in our own small circle till it takes a bigger shape. I am sure its nothing against what sort of business solutions we have been providing to the west. Lets do it for our country, lets do it for us.
Lets work towards making the IT industry a dream industry to work in.
Thanks,
Nitin |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 09:03:51
I agree with your views in the article & commend your intiative towards trying to better the work culture of our country and thus help towards the betterment of our future generations and the progress of our nation ...
I especially like the "EXHAUSTION=NO INNOVATION" fact .. this is an extremely important factor that hampers innovations & inventions. I will share this article with my colleagues too, so that our country people think about this aloud ..
Btw, just a small observation (beyond the context of the current topic): Instead of naming your book as "Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.4 (J2EE 1.4) Bible", you could've named it as "Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.4 (J2EE 1.4) - The GEETA"
We hv been so used to all innovations & inventions being done by Westerners, that we do NOT even think twice when we blindly adopt their word "Bible" .. just like we adopt their inventions. The Westerners are bound to use their religious terms in their work .. but why do we need to adopt the same blindly .. Why cant we use our own terms of Indian origin for anythings we create ...
(just a mild thought)
- Best Regards,
Shilpa |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 15:59:56
Is there a IT Union, if not, we should have one. A unoin of IT professionals to safeguard our interests , register disputes & live a healthy lifestyle contributing to innovative ideas. And when we will start thinking innovatively, our children will, making India a 'real' super power. |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 21:10:57
The article is good, but targets a few companies alone like Infy Wipro and TCS. The point is that these are not the only culprits. Even US companies like IBM, Intel, differ in culture with their offshore operations. There are days when a Engineer in India sits in office the whole weekend just waiting for his US counterpart who is enjoying his weekend to connect to the internet when free and do a small work.
The situation is 99.99% because of Indian middle level managers. God alone knows where the HR manages to find such brainless people. They do not know the gravity of any issue, or project. Whenever a customer calls the manager is out shouting at all his subordinates (many managers cannot even distinguish the fact that this is a new requirement). And forget these managers knowing any technical stuff, they even do not know managerial stuff like time and cost estimation.
The rapid growth in software industry has created a huge vacuum, which has pulled in people from all walks of life, some banker, civil engineer, have all hoped into the wagon. I do not say software development is a great science that these people cannot learn, but many people do not make any efforts to learn, and if they get promoted to a higher post, their subordinates will be crushed to death. A rightly paced increase in demand for labor will create good society and good distribution of wealth, and overall development of society. Else just like the california gold rush, where a person was rich one day and poor the next, so do inidan software engineers. I heard that after the 2000 IT crash it was very difficult for software engineers to find brides as their job was considered unstable. |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 23:16:31
Who says we are software professionals anyways ?? Simply put we are just well groomed and well educated (I really wouldn' t agree on this one) slaves. I know couple of 25 yrs old who died of heart attack...all for the glorious cause. Long live such s/w companies and their glorious 2 penny projects. I guess a time will come when companies will maintain 2 lists of ex-employees 1, People who have left the company. 2. People who have left the world. Fortunately for me, I maintain a good WLB in my current organization. To be honest slavery is just in our blood. These days people just think about money and nothing else. They don't give a damn about innovation, self-respect and exploitation. And this is where the companies start the exploitation. Agreed, that there a few hapless souls among us who have some personal commitments and are not in a position to fight back, but atleast some of us should take a firm stand against all this exploitation. I know quite a few people who would lick the soles of their clients shoes, if it meant getting a few more dollars. ****.
- Specter - |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-14 23:31:48
I fully agree with Harshad & all others who have opined on this subject. But we also need to remember the fact that to compete against developed nations there is something extra that we Indians need to do. This extra can come in any form that we have or can put in.
Developed nations already have a big lead against countries like India. This lead gives them a big advantage. To make up for this we need to put in something extra. Right now this comes in the form of extra effort. Same is the case with Japan. After being ruined in the world war it had a big lag & to make up they worked hard.
I dont really say that this is the only way but for sure this is also one of the ways.
Offcourse some of us can choose can an easy way out to immigrate to a developed foreign nation, inturn adding to their lead & contributing to India's lag. The choice is ours.
Once we become the leaders we can define the rules of the game, but until then we got to play by the some1 else's rules. |
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