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IndicThreads >> Considering the wide range of features of NetBeans and Eclipse and also that JDeveloper recently became free, do you think the days of the commercial Java IDE are over / numbered?
Rich Unger >> I think Borland's days in the IDE space are numbered. I don't think enough people are going to see the value in their Eclipse plugins. I feel the same way about Sun's Enterpise Java Studio. It's basically NetBeans with a UML modeler. Ho hum.
"Borland's days in the IDE space are numbered..."
"Sun's Enterpise Java Studio is basically NetBeans with a UML modeler..."
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The IDEA folks, though, have got it together. They're not targeting the whole Java developer community. They're creating a product that's extremely compelling to a much smaller slice of the market, and creating a lot of loyalty around that. That's something you can charge for. So long as they can stay ahead of Eclipse and NetBeans in the few areas where they really shine, and thereby capture a consistent (if small) market share, I think they can still have a profitable concern.
IndicThreads >> NetBeans is integrated with Sun's Application Server however which other servers can one easily work with through NetBeans?
Rich Unger >> Well, Tomcat is built in. JBoss and WebLogic integrations are finished now, and supposedly Websphere is on the way.
"NetBeans is integrated with Tomcat, JBoss, WebLogic and Sun's Application Server. WebSphere is on the way... "
IndicThreads >> Thanks Rich for your time and all the info about NetBeans and the Java IDE market.
My pleasure. Good luck with IndicThreads.
IndicThreads >> Readers can keep up with Rich through his blog at http://weblogs.java.net/blog/richunger/
Related:
>> NetBeans moving fast, could soon threaten Eclipse's leader position
>> Eclipse vs NetBeans
>> NetBeans is a long way from dead!
>> When to buy an IDE? When to stick with Eclipse / NetBeans?
>> Is Sun taking the Microsoft way to capturing the Java IDE market?
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Comment by Noname on 2005-10-14 07:30:35
I feel the reason why Netbeans is not as popular as Eclipse is that Sun has tried to do everything on it's own. No doubt it has done a very good job but this approach means that NetBeans doesn't get get free publicity like Eclipse does.
IBM does not have to market Eclipse because Nokia, BEA, etc are doing the marketing on IBM's behalf. With NetBeans, nobody is helping Sun.
NetBeans is obviously easier to use and has more features out of the box.
Just the Eclipse website is so confusing that you are never sure if you have downloaded what you were really looking for. |
Comment by Noname on 2005-11-23 14:14:50
I agree with the previous comment that NetBeans is too much Sun-controled to attract a lot of plug-in developers. People who already contribute do NetBeans disagree, but this is the perception for people outside. A longer argument is in by blog at
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/flozano/archive/2005/11/great_expectati.html |
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