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Java's failure at shared hosting will contribute to its downfall |
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Written by Harshad Oak
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Apr 04, 2006 at 11:50 AM |
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Comment by 'Guest' on 2006-04-05 20:04:02
In Java's primary space, which is the enterprise world. In that world, the vast majority of companies have dedicated hosting, or self-host. Shared hosting is mostly of interest to smaller players and hobbyist, and although this is an important market in its own right, it has completely different requirements than Enterprise development, where manageability, scalability and auditability are key. |
Comment by 'Guest' on 2006-04-20 13:08:33
Hello,
I'd have to agree - that finding good, shared hosting with J2EE is difficult to find...
I have published scripts which make this job easier, using the system I use to provide shared hosting. Of course, "real" shared Java hosting is out of the question for the reasons you stated above, not to mention the security implications; So we provide users with their own private tomcat instance & JVM and add their virtual host settings and connector to Apache & mod_jk's config.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/virtual-tomcat/
http://www.enterprise-hosting.co.uk |
Comment by xpi on 2006-05-03 11:40:58
I had also a hard finding for good enougth Tomcat hosting for a long time. But what is happening now is that there is a increasing offer on Linux servers of Tomcat+MySQL hosting at the same price than PHP+MySQL (Very cheap, at 5 bucks at month). You just have to put "Tomcat Plesk" in a Google search.
I'm running an application on a one of them with a very very satisfactory results.
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Comment by 'Guest' on 2006-05-01 13:12:06
Since the Plesk control planel hs included Tomcat, JSP hosting offer has dramatically improved. Just type "Tomcat Plesk" in a Google search. There are a lot of Tomcat+MySQL packs with the same conditions of PHP+MySQL.
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Comment by 'Guest' on 2006-04-27 23:48:21
I was trying to host some non-J2EE stuff on Lunarpages.com and was shocked to find out that they have banned many useful Java libraries.
[URL=http://desk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=120]Banned frameworks[/URL] and [URL=http://desk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=article&articleid=232]allowed frameworks[/URL]. |
Comment by devdanke on 2006-08-03 02:14:46
From servlets.com I found two Canadian based web hosts that specialize in Java hosting at a budget price. I've worked with both for my own projects and had a good experience.
http://4java.ca
http://kgbinternet.com
But I agree that there are many more PHP hosts than Java hosts. On the other hand, PHP is a lot easier to use than Java. A high school student could easily get some PHP pages up and running. I see PHP as more of a starter solution. I certainly would not want to use it on a big site requiring lots of maintenance.
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Comment by Wolfie on 2006-08-25 05:23:57
"Guest" is right. Things are picking-up for Tomcat/Java with the success of Plesk, which is what you should search for.
There have been some stability issues with Plesk 8.0.1 but 8.0.2 (or three) will have Tomcat 5 and is touted as much more stable in a shared environment.
The future of the internet is Java and prices are coming down drastically. You can't expect prices to be exactly the same as JVMs and Tomcat servers need more support and resources. |
Comment by 'Guest' on 2006-10-03 21:54:18
You are right about it being hard to find a good host.
Have you tried metawerx.net? They don't block any jars. You can change your own jars/web.xml, deploy new apps/wars, or use context.xml to add stuff for server.xml.
I think PHP admins just don't give enough attention to java because Apache and PHP dont need much work. If they run Plesk, then it looks easy, but maybe they won't know how to support you. |
Comment by Anonymous on 2006-12-09 07:50:26
The answer to Java hosting is VIrtual Private Server hosting not shared hosting. $20/month and you can use any library or framework you want. |
Comment by 'Guest' on 2007-02-23 23:49:55
There is a product that web hosts can use
to enable Private JVM JAVA Hosting, called
NGASI (http://www.ngasi.com)
It is an addon for the popular web control panels, such as Plesk and cPanel.
Each user account is able to install their own
Application Server and run it under their own
JVM instance. So each user have full
control of configuration, etc. - just as if running
on thier own server. |
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