jboss vs geronimo
The battle between the open source IDE platforms Eclipse eand NetBeans has worked to the advantage of the end user as the user now has too good, free and open source IDEs.
It now seems that a similar open source battle will soon commence between JBoss and Geronimo. While some think Geronimo will become the first choice EJB server and can very well become the Tomcat of the EJB world, some
others think that the launch of Geronimo is no big deal.
What do you think? Like Eclipse, can Geronimo come from behind and overshadow the established open source server, JBoss?
Related:
>> JBoss is light years ahead of other open source application servers
I think Jboss has no better image as a company than Apache, so this will be a good competition. It will take time before Geronima starts getting people preference though.
How can anybody make money in this market?
you make an open-source project and make it as a rival to IBM or other company’s products and then IBM buys the open-source project and stops or slows down the development of it and makes it closed-source-payable project 😉
ps : IBM also bought Gluecode 🙂
Open source competition means better platforms and tools. Better platforms and tools means shorter development lifecycle. This all means higher margins. Better margins means more bananas for the monkeys.
Tapestry? Struts? JSF? Shale? Webwork? – and these are just the frameworks.
Netbeans? Eclipse? JDeveloper? – and other IDE’s.
Now the application servers will start competing for market share of the free and open source arena. How can anybody make money in this market?
What about Jonas. It exists a long time, and is J2EE 1.4 certified.
I’m waiting til people start noticing that these guys have been incredibly unsuccessful at actually delivering anything – release dates pushed back again and again.
This is a Good Thing, since the Geronimo developers all work at GlueCode, for the founder of Lutris – remember Lutris, guys?
http://instantdb.tripod.com/
Indeed, GlueCode have already announced their closed-source version of Geronimo: JOE.
Geronimo == Enhydra, I’m amazed noone sees it yet.
I would have to disagree. I think JBoss should worry. Afterall, JBoss became popular as a tool to do development on before moving an application to a production server. I would imagine Geronimo would start out the same way then slowly move into the production space as well as being bundled by third party tools, and with the ASF license being far more lenient that will help.
I also think JBoss has fallen a bit out of favor with developers with its over religous antics on the server side and elsewhere.
I think the WebSpheres and WebLogics would be affected a lot more than JBoss as with two free and open source offerings, users might get reluctant to spend a lot of money on a commercial servers.
IBM deserves a lot of the credit for the success of Eclipse and for putting a lot of money and effort into the promotion of Eclipse.
The Apache name behind Geronimo will help but Apache isn’t the same as IBM!