I just read an article “Hiring the phantom Java architect”. The article raises some questions about the role of a Java developer and a Java architect.
Are these two separate entities or is there some overlap? Can an architect also be a developer? What should be the division of work between an architect and a developer?
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My observation is that generally architects who try to stay away from coding don’t get the necessary
respect from the developers. You hear comments like “It’s easy to
preach, the practice is what’s difficult” . While architects who are
very good at coding and also take up some coding work regularly gain
the developer’s respect very quickly. Developers come to them with their
problems and are more open to suggestions from such an architect.
In the article, the author is quite critical of
hiring managers for wanting a 50:50 architect + developers. He says
that “Architects are often idealized as Java gurus. The reality is they
are not gurus. Rather, they are the creative visionaries of an
organization’s Java future.”. He adds that “Yet when the 50-50 approach
is used to select a Java technologist, you end up with a generalist?not
a specialist. In the end, this lack of decisiveness ultimately creates
a lack of focus within your project.”
For the companies, I think it makes sense to recruit developer+
architect type people. This is especially true for small and medium sized companies where most work is executed by teams of less then 10 people. These teams just can’t afford to have one full fledged architect who is not involved in the coding.
Also an architect who stays away from coding can very soon lose
touch with the ground realities of Java development. This is the worst part, as then the architect starts pushing in technologies just for the sake of it. So even when the project doesn’t need them., you will see EJBs, web services and all sorts of stuff being forced into the system.
What do you think? Do you prefer having specialized architects or senior developers handling that responsibility while also being involved in the coding?
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A developer develops an application whereas architect interfaces the management, and the development team. Well whetehr you are a Java developer or an architect, i think it is good time for both. So many conferences keep taking place for Java developers. Waiting to chcek out the Sun Tech Days 2010 conference in Hyderabad where experts are going to share ideas on new technologies there. lets see what happens.
Architects should lead from the front, they should be the evangelist for a project. A good Architect takes ownership, and treats the project as if it were his or her 1st born. I believe a good grounding in development is essential, and at least a couple of real projects under their belt from a code perspective is the best way to ensure that the Architecture goes from Vapourware to Software.
An Architect should be able to Walk the Walk as well as Talk the Talk. They do not have to be code guru’s able to remember the minutiae of detail of a given API, but they do need to know how long something will take to code and test, and pragmatic to know what’s possible within a timeframe and budget.
An architect is a person who should have Comparative knowledge of technology. its not only about a java architect but also other software technology architect also. A developer can also fix the production level problem
and they can make a decision to develop an application. but a good design is very good maintainable which can be given or monitored by architects or Sr developer. The role architect is more suitable where following situation arises.
1) Big Project,
2) Mission Critical,
3) Shady Requirements,
4) New Team,
5) Tight Deadline,
6) No Contingency Plan,
7) Clueless Management …
Thanks,
Rajaram
The architect in IT industry is very different from the one in the other industries, other industries have little change, but IT industry is very different, new techniques and new frameworks are always created quickly.
If you are a ‘coach’ in the basketball game, the rules don’t change all the time, so you can be a good coach even if you don’t play well.
In IT,’rules’ always change, first you should be a player, know how to play, then you can be a good coach. If you don’t code in person, you don’t understand them well, you don’t know their weaknesses and strengthes either,
how can you be a good architect!
I am totally agree with RMA. In a medium/large company, they always need a ‘coach’ in order to get all correctly done, otherwise, in production, you should implements some changes that could affect the company economy, just because ‘the application has not a good design’ and then, is when an Architect is called, to fix that ‘bad design’.
Regards.
Hi to all,
Architect is the designer. He/she know how the system works flow and how it will be implement. Thats why we have a Functional Specs… Gathering Info and then from that info into a System Design. Blue Prints – Technical Specification….
Developer is the creator. Who will make some coding parts, debugging, testing, and slight documentation. Will follow the Technical Specification.
If the Architect will do some major coding… I would rather resign as an architect and re-apply for a developer. Why? …. its up to you to answer…
Lets state a scenario, a Basketball game.. The architect is the Coach and the developer is the player. Not All Coaches are good in playing basketball, but they know how to implement it any ways… that’s a simple scenario. I hope we got it…
hehehe
RMA
Yes. I do agree with Mr.Sudhakar’s comments. An Architect must be a good communicator, understand the stakeholders needs, coordinator for the development team, understand & evaluate the technology and suggest the better fitment of the application.
It’s obvious that over a period of time, if you are out of coding, you will forget but it doesn’t mean that you can’t do programming at all. It’s the expertise that drives you but not coding alone. For example, a General Manager – Marketing isn’t needed to be a salesman. He might have already come across all the odds and reached the position. He need to be a Mentor for the marketing staff but not a typical salesman.
This is my conclusion.
Regards,
Raj
Hi
Very good Blog, with purposeful discussion, in my opinion ‘Architect’ is one who interfaces the management, Client and the development team. He should have clear understanding of this entire domain; Coding is only a part in the whole picture. An architect needs to have clear understanding on areas such as…
1) Client Requirements
2) Management/Organizations strategy
3) Technology
4) Ability of the team and
5) Good communication and leadership skills
Mere senior developer may/may not handle all this roles. An Architect role require more than development.
Yes, I too agree that staying out of Technology and asking developers to develop something just for the buzzword sake doesn’t do anything good and this is where he (an Architect) has to apply all the other skills he should posses.
Thank you.
Regards,
Sudhakar
:grin ‘Quick somebody get me one of those Software Architects’…
So I’m one of those ‘Coding Architect Types’ currently interviewing, a friend of mine (great guy, good depth of knowledge, not terribly experienced though), hooks me up with an interview at a small company (who just got bought by a BIG company). Talking to my friend’s boss, he is hiring 6 people to get a substantial application written and deployed into production in 6 months. So I start interviewing him a little:
Q) ‘What positions are you looking to fill?’
A) ‘We are just looking for talented Senior and Junior people, we’ll all work together to get the job done, we don’t care about titles (i.e. Architect) here’
Q) ‘How far along are you in requirements gathering?’
A) ‘Well, I have a preety good idea of what it needs to do, but we haven’t gotten sign-off on whether it’s going to be J2EE or .Net’
Q) ‘How will the team be made up?’
A) ‘We have some guys who are experienced with front end, some guys who are experienced with the middle tier, and some guys who know a little about databases. We’ll all work together to get it done.’
Q) ‘How seasoned are your team members? Have they worked together for very long?’
A) ‘Three guys have been here for a while, I just hired (As a senior developer), we’re still looking for the remaining two individuals’
Q) ‘How business critical is this application?’
A) ‘Mission critical, now that we are owned by we need to scale to support the increased demand.’
Q) ‘What’s your contingency plan?’
A) ‘We’ll just work hard to get it done. I don’t want to think we can’t get it done on time, we HAVE to get it done on time.’
Q) ‘How many big projects have you been involved with?’
A) ‘I was heavily involved with the design and implementation of our current system’ (which was done in PHP)
Q) ‘If I came to work here, who would I be reporting to?’
A) ‘I would be your direct supervisor.’
Q) ‘What is your (job) title there?’
A) ‘After the buy-out, I became ‘Director of Software Engineering”.
…By now you’ve picked up on where this is heading. I was asked to come back for a second interview, declined. This is where the lack of leadership for someone called Architect is sorely needed (as posted by chinmay), however, this project is doomed, here’s the rundown:
Big Project,
Mission Critical,
Shady Requirements,
New Team,
Tight Deadline,
No Contingency Plan,
Clueless Management …
a fast learner, good teacher, good leader…
50:50 or 80:20 doesn’t matter, I do agree creative visionaries are more important. With this characteristics imply that the architect is a smart guy and hard working.
You do realize that Macromedia Flex requires an Application Server & thus a JVM, and the Avalon framework also requires a VM (namely the .NET CLR)?
But I do agree in general that Apache’s time is best spent elsewhere, and that a JVM/JDK from Apache will never be able to keep up with changes or equal the quality of Sun’s JVM/JDK.
Also Sun has licensed several patents/technologies that are included into some of the API code. How will Apache Foundation deal with this?
an architect who dose not touch actual coding is not a successful architect !!!
Assuming for the sake of argument that there is some ‘architecting’ activity that less experienced developers don’t do. What is it?
Identifying big pitfalls before disaster strikes
Reviewing code and helping developers
Deciding the technical approach
Planning the work so that strategic issues get pulled forward as tactical objectives are met
Deciding what process runs where
Solving hard technical problems – process X on host Y is hung because it makes a blocking call to F and all threads in X are waiting for a lock held by thread P in X that is hung …
Drawing attractive UMl diagrams at the end for the manager.
But to effectively lead developers the architect needs credibility, mandate, and authority. If you don’t code but until now wrote 80% of the system thats fine. But as a new hire you have to code. If you are the ‘architect’ who does some coding and doesn’t manage who works on what when then you will be ineffective because as soon as you try to do anything that affects any developer they will see you as someone adding to their workload / obstructing their success and they be incentivised to neutralize you.
To be effective you have to have some clear team management / lead role.
From my opinion an architect must do some coding. If he doesn’t he loses touch of latest in java or any tech. And thus unnecessarily he forces the technologies in the project. Which in result doesn’t works at all.
Architect for what? so he is a business analyst. Architect how to? so he is a developer. He even should presee risk. So architect should know everything.
The problem is that there are no clearly defined definitions of these titles (or any other titles for that matter) and as we all know people try to sell their image as best as they can when shopping for a job which leads to these obfuscated and contorted buzzwords. If you are a Java Dev. don’t feel bad if you call yourself Java Architect because the same thing happened in the management area a decate or two ago when the accountant become a Financial Advisor and Strategist or the treasurer became Chief Financial Officer … you get the idea. It is done throught the industry as a ’smoke and mirrors’ so that people become confused and think more about the good sounding title than they would if you would tell them that it’s just the guy that writes the code.
yes,a architect should be a developer!
When Mr. Bill Gates promoted himself to be ‘Chief Software Architect’, everyone tried to use ‘Software Architect’ to distinguish himself or herself from other ’software developers or engineers’. I think that this will hurt ourselves more in the future. Bottom line is that ’software architecture’ and ’software building’ are not the same. You can ask architect, civil engineer, eletrical engineer about this. Personally, I prefer ‘Software Developer or Engineer’ because that is whom we are, aren’t we? If you want to, we can add the prefixes like ‘junior, senior, principal’ and suffixes like ‘I, II, III, IV, V, …’. These should cover everyone in the software world!
For the last 3-4 years I’ve been in the role ‘Architect’ (in the 50/50 vain as described in your article) I’m starting to realize this word itself is becoming way overused… After inteviewing my last 3 or 4 supposed ‘Architects’ I realized everyone who’s ever used Java considers themselves ‘Architect’… ‘I read Java for Dummy’s, hence Architect’…Maybe there should be another title ‘Buzzword Architect’ who would be the guy who is the CTO’s confidant, doesn’t get anything done, but throws out cool technology terms like ‘Service Orientated Architecture’ (Yeah, I misspelled it intentionally). Hmm, maybe I’ll create a website ‘AmIArchitectOrNot’ in the same vain as ‘AmIHotOrNot’ where people could take an online test to quantify this role as ‘Architect’.
Don’t let words like Architect or Developer trip you up. If you’ve got anyone telling you to use technology X without having to use it themselves, you are working in the wrong kind of environment.